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Rogue Lilly
Caldari
Lords Of Filth
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Posted - 2009.04.10 20:50:00 -
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I would like to weigh in with my limited knowledge.
don't hate on blasters until you've had to fly an AC ship. The problem I keep hearing is that their range is too short.
Well AC range is the same range if not shorter, yeah it has a much larger falloff where you can hit about half the time if you're lucky and those hits will be for about 30% of your already stupidly low damage.
Oh and did I mention that ships with bonuses to AC will also have a much weaker tank than gallante ships.
The problem you're encountering now OP is that no one wants anything that isn't a lazor ship because people who play eve think that if something has .05% less damage it is "a complete failship that suxors and we don't want it in our fleet."
After flying amarr, then caldari, then minmatari all the way up to battle cruiser and just now training and flying gallante I have to say that autocannons are by the far the worst weapon in the entire game....except for artillery.
I know it may seem annoying to try and close the distance to use blasters, but it's a lot less annoying than actually being in range for 3 minutes straight doing grazing hits for 11 damage because an autocannons big benefit is that it's "niche" is mid range in which it completely misses everything. So you either stay in mid range and do so little damage an armor tanked ships shield will still passively regen faster than you can hurt them, or you close into the distance in which you can actually do damage with an AC.....oh but wait, the distance at which autocannons begin doing a decent level of damage IS blaster range, and your autocannon's decent damage at that range is still half of what the blasters are doing.
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Rogue Lilly
Caldari
Lords Of Filth
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Posted - 2009.04.10 21:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Childstar
Edited by: Childstar on 10/04/2009 21:32:11
1 x RR Blaster Mega with 2 x mag stabs vs 1 x RR Typhoon with 1 x BCU.
Mega gets 1132 max raw dmg.
Typo gets 1006 max raw dmg.
RR Phoon gets 382 dps after/against FULL omni tank resistances.
RR Megas gets 356 dps after/against FULL omni tank resistances.
The joke is that the mega cannot fit the FULL omni tank and the phoon does not cos its gets better overall resists with a hardener/dcu/twin plate setup.
Oh and in their ACTUAL AVAILABLE fits vs each others resists/tank...
The phoon hits the mega for 422.3 dps after the megas resists.
The mega hits the phoon for 311.3 dps after the phoons resists.
So even with 1 dmg mod on the phoon, and the mega with 2 dmg mods the phoon hits the MEGA for 111 dps more AFTER their relative risists.
you are correct that a phoon flown by a character with 50m sp will do a lot of damage, now compair ANY other ship, especially anything below battleships size.
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Rogue Lilly
Caldari
Lords Of Filth
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Posted - 2009.04.10 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Childstar
Originally by: Rogue Lilly
Originally by: Childstar
1 x RR Blaster Mega with 2 x mag stabs vs 1 x RR Typhoon with 1 x BCU.
Mega gets 1132 max raw dmg.
Typo gets 1006 max raw dmg.
RR Phoon gets 382 dps after/against FULL omni tank resistances.
RR Megas gets 356 dps after/against FULL omni tank resistances.
The joke is that the mega cannot fit the FULL omni tank and the phoon does not cos its gets better overall resists with a hardener/dcu/twin plate setup.
Oh and in their ACTUAL AVAILABLE fits vs each others resists/tank...
The phoon hits the mega for 422.3 dps after the megas resists.
The mega hits the phoon for 311.3 dps after the phoons resists.
So even with 1 dmg mod on the phoon, and the mega with 2 dmg mods the phoon hits the MEGA for 111 dps more AFTER their relative risists.
you are correct that a phoon flown by a character with 50m sp will do a lot of damage, now compare ANY other ship, especially anything below battleships size.
You do know that this is about problems BS sized blasters and the ships that use them dont you?.
oops, no, I kept seeing the brutix being brought up so I thought it was blasters in general. But it seems that every large weapon system has issues except rails and lazors.
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